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a new deadline in the federal prosecution of former president trump expires in hours, and this as intrigue in georgia grows. a new subpoena is on the table as the grand jury weighs whether or not they'll charge trump. a cnn exclusive. a new report shows that ukraine is not makieing extensive progrs against russia. a sobering new report in this morning. and now, warrants issued after a brawl in alabama. a group of white boaters accused
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of jumping a black boater. with john berman and omar jimenez, this is cnn "news cent central". we are following a lot of new developments following donald trump. the grand jury that handed up the indictment against him are back at it meeting in washington, d.c., in the federal courthouse, and this as special counsel jack smith and the trump legal team have a 3:00 p.m. deadline following the election of the subversion case, and this is as the trump's team wants looser rules about what evidence he can share publicly before the trial. and trump says that the prosecutor is on a political campaign to restrict his first right. and the judge wants this hearing scheduled before the end of day
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friday. all of this is coming as cnn has learned that this man, trump ally, bernie keric has met with jack smith's team, and the former new york commissioner is a long time ally with rudy giuliani and coordinated with him post election, and we have jessica schneider on this, and pick where you want to start, but what should we expect of this deadline today. >> yes, omar, the judge here, she has been aggressive and she wants to settle the issues over this proposed protective order, and she does want this hearing by the end of the week, and what she is telling trump's team, and counsel is that they need to submit their availability before that hearing by 3:00 today, and we have seen the back and forth in court filings around donald trump's team is trying to subvert his first amendment rights by in this protective order restricting what he can
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disclose publicly once he has received that evidence in the case. the counsel's team has fired back and saying that allowing trump to share what he gets before trial will damage the case, and the goal of the defendant's proposed protective order pretrial publicity is antithetical to the justice, and so trump wants to use everything that he might get and all of the evidence handed over to drum up the supporters on social media and the campaign trail. so this is continuing to be a fight, omar that the judge is determined to put to rest by the the end of this week, and a hearing will happen before the close of day friday, and then at that point, it will be set in stone once she decides what from this proposed protective order will go into effect, and it is going to be determined what donald trump can and cannot share with his followers in the social media site truth social.
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>> and that is just this case, jessica schneider. john? >> and so now, in the fulton county grand jury into the election returns overturn in fulton county, georgia, lieutenant governor duncan says he will testify. >> yes, the lieutenant governor saying he is willing to comply with the subpoena he received to supply testimony before the grand jury who we assume is going to be hearing the case before former president donald trump and his many allies, but listen to what jeff duncan said on cnn yesterday about why he believes it is important to comply with the subpoena. >> yeah, i'll be there to answer the facts as i know them to continue the process to discover what actually happened in the
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post election period of time and we cannot repeat it asnd i don'e it happen in my home state ofda ga and a lot people's lives have been uprooted and soiled. >> we don't know that the district attorney is going to necessarily call all of the witnesses that she has called to provide testimony, but she has to craft a narrative around what donald trump and his allies were trying to do around the election, but geoff duncan has been critical of donald trump's efforts to overturn the election, and it is clear that a number of presentations that went around were not sanctioned by him even though he was the senate president at the time. >> so, she has witnesses on deck, and that is interesting to me, and other subpoenas to other people as well, because it indicates that they have maybe some work to do before the indictment comes, and yet the roads are blocked outside of the courthouse already, and it makes one wonder, is this going to
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happen, and if so, when? >> well, the interesting thing about these witnesses, and again, geoff duncan has been subpoenaed, and jen jordan who is a former democratic state senator, and george chiti who is a independent journalist and all who have testified before a grand jury have spent months and months of testifying and so there is a sense of what these folks will say if they are asked questions, and so what appears to be happening is that the district attorney is going to be happening is if we make this presentation before a grand jury what kind of voices can we use to build this narrative around what was happening whether it is a crazy presentations before the state lawmakers and whether it was the assembling of the fake electors or the republican fake electors in georgia and the witnesses can kind of speak to that. again, the question is timing. there are grand jurors who meet twice in fulton county, monday
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and tuesday, and the grand jury hears cases of murder and robbery yesterday. so it is unlikely to see the indictment today. we expect the presentation to take two days, and it could be earliest thursday this week, but possibly next week, john. >> and the work laid out before them is so interesting. thank you for explaining it very well, sara murray. >> and also to talk about this is the host of the "it's complicated" podcast, and sara murray knows the ins and outs of this investigation in georgia really better than anybody. and people have been on standby for quite some time waiting for the indictments to come down from the georgia investigation, and as sara was laying out, the former lieutenant governor geoff duncan is handed a subpoena to testify, and how do you see this as the court is kind of on lockdown?
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>> as sara has pointed out the witnesses have testified before of a special grand jury and what we are seeing right now is the finishing touches put on the case by fani willis and her team. so ultimately, what they are doing is to considering, hey, any issues or additional questions that we need to ask, and things that we missed, and maybe they are trying to add some additional testimony that we didn't get out earlier, and all signs are pointing to august being the month that this is going to be coming down, and as sara noted that extraordinary measures that willis' office is going to point to security and this really being the indictment. >> and then on the special counsel case, trump's team responded overnight of the protective order that the prosecutors asked for the limit what trump essentially can share publicly in terms of evidence as they head up to trial, and one of the things that trump's team
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said in pushing back or pushing for less restrictions th the prosecution said, this is what they saihe filing in a trial about first amendment rights, the government seeks to limit first amendment right, and worse, it does so against the administration's primary political opponent in an election season in which the election prominent candidates have campaigned on the indictments and proliferation indictments. what do you think of this? >> it is a lot of flash and not much substance, kate. it is not a disagreement of the scope of the protective order. both say they should be having a protective order. both sides in civil and criminal case, and very narrow disagreement, and there is this wrapping around it all of this talk of the first amendment and there's the included the photo
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of biden in the mug of the filing, and all of it seems to be more for show and all of us to discuss in the media rather than anything with a lot of substance and not much meat in the bun so to speak. >> republican presidential candidate and former federal prosecutor chris christie was on cnn and talking to anderson cooper and he said very clearly in his view that mark meadows is a cooperating witness in this case, and first, amongst other reasons, because he is barely mentioned in the indictment. and listen to how chris christie talked about it, renato. >> it could be the worst testimony for him outside of the family members, because mark meadows was with him constantly. >> and involved in all of it in georgia, the electors. >> he was a very involved chief of staff in my experience. he made sure that he was in every meeting and every conversation. and we remember, there are
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hundreds of text messages that he turned over to the special counsel that he kept. >> many have speculated the same that mark meadows is very conspicuously not mentioned in indictment considering his role in the trump administration and do you agree with chris christie? >> yeah, chris christie is a pretty savvy and experienced former federal prosecutor himself, and he has good instincts here, and ultimately the mark meadows hired a very, very good defense attorney, and they pursued a very savvy strategy to keep him out of the january 6th hearing, and ultimately, it sure looks like jack smith is making a decision that mark meadows is a witness and not a co-conspirator in his mind. and if that is where he has put him, he may not formally be a flipper in some sense, but he may be providing testimony that supports text messages to help
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fill in blanks that helps jack smith prove his case. >> thank you for coming in. omar? >> kate, following big news on the campaign trail and another shake-up for ron desantis's presidential run. he is now replacing the campaign manager. we are getting more news on this, and steve contorno is joining us. what are you learning, and why is this so significant? >> omar, it is another day, and another shake-up in the ron desantis campaign, and last month, it was rank and file members where he made deep cuts to the staff, and now at the top, and his manager who led the desantis operation going back to the re-election campaign last year is out as campaign manager, and this a move that some behind the scenes have been pushing for, for weeks. you been hearing the rumblings of all of the campaigns and the financing and messaging, and they saw it as a reflection of the campaign manager who does
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not bring a lot of experience to the job, but trusted in desantis circles. so now, desantis is bringing in the decision to change gears and bringing in james orthomeyer who bringing in more ideological alignment with desantis to the job. he seen as enforcer of desantis' agenda in the legislature, and all of the cultural battles that he has been wading, but he also does not bring a ton of experience to the job like his predecessor, and he does not have a lot of seasoning running presidential campaigns, and so they are bringing in other people to help on that front, but this is a concern that people who are supporting desantis, donors and otherwise have been concerned for weeks. we are going into almost a full month of stories and headlines about the shake-up of the ron desantis campaign. and the concern is that this change being made now a month
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after we saw the initial reports of changes to the campaign, it is just adding more and more bad headlines at a time when they need to change the narrative and talk about what governor desantis is going to do for the country and how he is going to beat president trump, and here we are in august talking about the massive changes to the campaign, once again, omar. >> and they are hoping that it is going to spark things in the right direction. steve contorno, thank you. and coming up a brawl on a river front dock in alabama after white boaters are seen attacking a black security guard. we will explain, and new accusations this morning about how this started. plus, new numbers into cnn are giving us a better idea of how inflation is really impacting americans and their wallets, and specifically household debt, and a popular drug for weight loss could also help people's hearts. we will explain.
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debt is what we want to look at. up 4.6% in the second quarter, and that is jumping to over a trillion dollars in credit card debt for americans. that is about up $45 billion in the second quarter, and why it is important to look at this is because the consumers are clearly still spending, but they are putting a lot of the spending on credit cards, and what that could mean is that americans are still grappling with high inflation and also struggling with the higher interest rates and thus putting a lot of the spending on credit cards carrying greater debts. and then i want to draw your attention to online sales which is a little bit of the flipside. online sales decreasing 1.6% year over year, and this is significant, because it means that while the inflation is still high, folks might be spending just slightly. here is what has come down in terms of what people are spending for online sales, and
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plinss -- appliances are down 8%, and also, groceries are trying to figure out how to pay for the higher prices at the grocery stores that are still up 3.6% year over year, and also apparel 11.9% up year over year, and folks are still spending and trying to be mindful of what they are spending, and anything that they are spending is being put on credit cards. >> yeah, it is really interesting to think about the implications here, because the consumer spending is something that drives economy forward, but it is something that could come back to haunt consumers if they pile up this debt, and ultimately can't afford to pay it off. thank you, vanessa yurkevich.
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omar? >> a group of white boaters attacked a black dock worker and we have seen the video. the montgomery mayor is calling for justice to be served and ryan young has the latest. >> reporter: an altercation on the montgomery boat dock over the weekend between a group of white boaters and black employee escalated to a massive brawl that resulted in massive arrest warrants. justice is being called for after a man was trying to do his job. >> it is something that we are investigating right now, and we will continue to go through the process before we take additional steps. >> it began when the black employee was trying to clear the dock space with the harriet ii normally docks. the cruiser was about to return to shore and needed space to dock. >> he was doing his job, and for some reason, they didn't like
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it. they didn't want to move the boat, and he decided to get physical with him. >> you can see in the video the black employee on the dock is arguing with one of the men from the pontoon boat, and another shirtless white man charging at the employee and hitting him in the face. soon after that, you can see several others are joining in on the attack of the dock employee. and some of the video which has gone viral with millions of views, and people on the boat can be yelling for someone to go help the employee. then at one point, you can see the young man who has jumped off of the boat swimming ashore to help the man who is being attacked. >> the boat got closer, and the guys and the crew members, and everybody got off, and that when it happened, thapd why when it got off of the boat, they came right to the smaller boat. >> that is when more fighting ensues turning to the all-out brawl including several people hit over the head with a folding chair. soon after, officers started to
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try to take control and handcuffing people in a fight. >> they were antagonists in the whole situation, and unfortunately when people of color are the first to be put in handcuffs. >> many people remain about the melee that is split across racial lines. we are doing the due diligence about what took place. >> and talk about a story that has taken social media by storm, and they have analyzed the video from every angle, but talking to the witness, it is clear that the man who was working with the one who was attack and the police are of course talking about anyone with video of this incident to come forward and hopefully today at the 2:00 news conference and who those people are who are charged and what they are facing. >> ryan young, thank you.
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this morning, we have new concerns over the ukrainian counter offensive, and cnn is learning frojim sciutto that the results are sobering and not in a good way. there are significant diplomats who have lines that the ukrainian forces have not really gone through the first line. joining us is petro poroshenko, the former president of ukraine, and mr. president, thank you for joining us, and in case you didn't hear the introduction, cnn is hearing from a variety of forces that there are concerns about the slow progress, very limited progress of the ukrainian counteroffensive and why has it been so slow?
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>> you are absolutely right. counteroffensive is not an easy job. we are definitely successful when we are united and act together as a single mechanism in the different dimension at the same time. i think that it does not only consist of the ukrainian forces that were created in 2014, and this is a complex measure against russians. and this is not a hollywood movie. and definitely if anybody can see sitting in the movies home watching "barbieheimer" eating
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pop ck popcorn and want to see a quick movie, that is not the case. just yesterday, we have a missile attack that killed dozens of ukrainian civilian and many dozens of ukrainian who were wounded. with that situation, it is definitely, we need enough weapons. we need a long-range missile, and we need jet fighter to protect the ukrainian sky when russian has air dominance, because no nato tactics have described a operation without air defense and jet fighter. it is also consistent with the extremely powerful sanction against russia, and i call for
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the western operation with the sanction operation right now. we need to cut russian ability, putin ability to finance the war. i want to remind you that this is the new type of war, and swred a total dominance of the war, and war welfare system, and now i think that the ukrainian and armed warfare system to be experienced shoulder to shoulder, and we are fighting not totally for ukraine, but we are fighting for freedom in the world, and for democracy in the world, and this is that we are now protecting the western world. and ukrainian forces, and we have proved that we are now surprising world, because i wanted to remind you in the 24th
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of february of last year that nobody believed that the armed forces first created by nato standard can protect kyiv can protect the region, and we will have a very successful is offensive protective region, and protection in kherson and 32 kilometers, and not existing in there a positive experience of how we can go through this type of things. but we already have quite a good progress, and please don't repeat russian narrative that russia is stopping the ukrainian armed forces and winning the
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war. very important message, we are extremely grateful to the united states, the united states people, the united states administration, president of united states, congress for the enormous support, because altogether, we received since the beginning of the full-sized operation, $66 billion from the united states. and this is a little bit compensating, because russia spent 11 times more money than we ukrainian when we were preparing the armed forces. and now, i have no doubt the victory would be with us. victory on the battlefield, victory on the sanction field, and victory on the post war rebuilding, and please keep increasing the pressure on russia, pressure at every dimension and this is the shortest way to our victory. >> mr. president, we have a
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minute left, mr. president. are the russian defenses stronger, more substantial than ukraine thought they would be? >> look, this is impossible when the offensive forces are weaker than the defensive. the main difference is that ukrainian soldiers and believe me, every single week i am on the battlefield delivering the artilleries and assistance and doing the same like all ukrainian do for making victory close, but the unique difference is the fighting for our own soil, for our own family and our own country, and this is definitely going to make a miracle. please keep believe in our victory. this is also very important factor our joint action now.
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>> no one questions the courage, spirit or heart of the ukrainian people. former president petro poroshenko, thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> omar? coming up, disturbing new details of the teenaged cousin of the uvalde cousin, and what he says he was planning on doing. that is next. okay everyone, our mission is complete balanced nutrition. together we provide nutrients to support immune, muscle, bone, and heart health. yaaay! woo hoo! ensure with 25 vitamins and minerals and ensure complete
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right now a group of congressional democrats led by joaquin castro is touring the southern border and got a look at the razor wire and buoys installed by the texas governor
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to stop the illegal crossings. and now, rosa, what are they going to be seeing down there? as we have been following the back and forth about especially the buoys, what is this going to change? >> well, what these congressmen are able to see is the raw reality, kate on, on the border they can see the border buoys and the consconsertino wire, ane texas land owners can not have access of their land because they have barricaded the land, and the border patrol has no
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access to the land, and the border patrol is a federal agent with jurisdiction on the u.s. southern border and the state of texas has blocked them off. this is taking lawmakers by surprise, and they are taken aback by this, because they can witness and able to see that the state of texas is on the riverside, and the border patrol is on the other side not having access, and the headline from the tour so far is as the u.s. congressman joaquin castro is asking the usdoj to ask the president of the united states to take a comment. take a listen. >> this is barbaric. you can see that they are basically treating the asylum seekers, these human beings like animals. you can see the razor wire, and the barrel traps that have c co consertino wire on them, and
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they are going to have the border patrol who has responsibility for all of this process. >> now, right now, lawmakers are in the building that you can see behind me, and in city hall, and meeting with the local leaders and, kate, the next stop is shelby park, and this is a public park in eagle pass that the state of texas has also taken over, and they have deployed the wire in shipping containers and we are headed that way after they meet with the local leaders. >> and what you are getting at, rosa, is that texas has been, as you have covered been at the series of border controversies of recent, and where do things stand with this? >> this started with a controversial buoys and the usdoj has filed a lawsuit against the state of texas saying that they were deployed unlawfully, and the state of texas says they have constitutional authority to deploy the buoys while the
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preliminary injunction in that case is set to be before the court on august 22nd, and on top of all of that, mexico is investigating a migrant who died on the river and got stuck on those border buoys and mexico has maintained all along that those buoys are violating two international treaties. now, the other controversy that texas is in the middle of also involves a trooper whistle-blower who is a texas state trooper who emailed his superiors, kate, saying that he was ordered to push the migrants back into the river and also to then deny them water, and texas denies this is the policy, but the texas department of public safety office of inspector general is investigating that case. >> rosa flores, thank you for the update from eagle pass,texas, this morning. omar? >> staying in texas, court documents are showing that a teenaged cousin of the uvalde
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school gunman has been arrested after making threats do the same thing. he is facing a felony charge of making public threats to a public place and misdemeanor charges of terroristic threats of a family member. ed lavandera is with us, and what are you learning about these latest developments? >> well, omar, this is coming from the court document, and the arrest affidavit for 17-year-old nathan james cruz and in these documents the investigators are outlining the information they say they have obtained from the suspect's mother and sister, and this happened yesterday morning, and the suspect's mother contacting the san antonio police saying that the suspect's mother had told the police that this 17-year-old was quote planned to do the same thing as his cousin had done in mass shooting at robb elementary school in may of 2022 where 19 children and two teachers were gunned down. in that affidavit, the mother says she overheard or told the
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investigators she overheard her son speaking with an unidentified person on the phone where he was making plans to make the illegal purchase of an ar-15 firearm. all of this is concerning to the mother, because her son, she says, he is on probation, intoxicated at the time, and that they also lived near an elementary school. his sister told investigators that he had threatened her and also again talked about shooting up a school as well. all of this is coming as investigators took him into custody, and they interviewed him according to the arrest warrant affidavit where the 17-year-old denied making the statements, but right now, the suspect is being held on 160,000 bond at a jail there in san antonio. omar? >> ed, other details at this point as to what particular school he was allegedly threatening? >> the arrest warrant affidavit does not specify which school it might have been, and all of this
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extremely concerning, because it is a week or so away from depending where you are of the classes beginning once again here in texas, and a great deal of concern about that, and these court documents do not detail which school it was. >> a lot to keep an eye on, ed lav lavendera, and thank you. and now, a weight drug is showing positive signs for weight loss and stroke.
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trial. this is a thing they haven't seen before. meg terrell is with us. explain what they are seeing and why it's so significant. >> this is the first trial we have ever seen where a weight loss drug has prevented heart attacks and strokes or heart-related deaths in a clinical trial. they have been trying to prove this for years. so they looked at the drug in about 17,000 patients, you had previous cardiovascular disease or heart health problems. what they found is that on top of standard of care, this drug helped reduce their risk of another heart ache by 20 ars over the course of the five-year trial. doctors are calling this a landmark finding this morning. >> so what are some of the implications here? if this can reduce the chance of
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heart attack or stroke what does it mean for how it might be used going forward? >> these are wildly popular medicineses used for weight loss, but one of the major problems is insurance coverage has not been great. they are pretty exens pivot. that can cost $1350 a month without insurance. once the results are published in journal, because this is just the prels release right now, the fda adds them to the prescribing information. that could open up insurance reimbursement, which could enable more people to access these medications. >> also business implications for the makers of wegovy. i'm sure there's a lot of people hoping this can make a significant difference. thank you so much. >> i also think i have been mispronouncing it. >> most of the time i just don't try to say the name because it's too harm. >> you do a great job. we're going to give you all the credit. >> i just say whatever you say.
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